Armand Niculescu

Armand is 32 year old designer and programmer employed at Media Division. He has a strong interest in Flash/Actionscript, 3D and photography.

19 responses to “RAW Heavyweights: Lightroom, DxO and Capture One”

  1. Kostis57

    Very nice work indeed! I agree with you that LR is overall slightly superior. Although in my (slow) machine editing performance is cluttered because controls are not so responsive.
    A comparison to Bibble and Silkypix will be welcome too.

  2. Michael Foerster

    Nice job… :-)

    Much appreciated. I don’t know Capture One at all, but I agree with your findings concerning DxO and LR. I use both, i.e at least I try to use DxO 5; it’s just soooo unstable, hardly usable. When it does manage to get to the end of the correction process without crashing or rebooting my notebook, I’m astonished at the level of improvement it manages to get done with my pics although my camera/lens combinations aren’t supported at all. I use a Pentax K10D which is on the list and a LX which isn’t (obviously), but I don’t have any of the (only) THREE lenses they have modules for. LR I like very much, but I’m really p***s at the moment because of the problem I’m having with my PEF (Pentax RAW) files since version 1.3 (and 1.3.1). The pink tint on all pictures “developed” with the “Pentax 1.0 profile” is really annoying. Hope Adobe gets this sorted out soon…

    So for the moment I’m in love with two very different ladies that have both decided to turn their back on me… :-) :-(

    Sometimes I do miss Raw Shooter Pro…

    Well, on the up side this leaves me with more time for the one lady in my life, that I really care about… ;-)

    Cheers,
    Michael

  3. Sami Sundell

    Just a note about the prices: Capture One LE goes for $99, and it contains all the features most of us need – Pro version (which doesn’t exist yet, the beta is for LE) adds things such as tethered shooting, digital back support and CMYK TIFF output, so feature-wise LE is probably closer to two others.

  4. Rob Greenstein

    Now that Capture One Version 4 has been formally released it would be interesting to know your findings with the production version.

    Also Bibble Pro 4.9.9b is the latest build offered for the Windows OS version of that program. It would be informative to read your findings of that program’s capabilities in the same scenarios as you reported in your original post. Particularly, as Bibble Pro’s features are quite capable in all the areas you covered in your initial report.

  5. Wade Heninger

    Great comparison.

    I really find the integrated aspects of Lightroom to be the tipping point for many photographers that I talk to. Its a great time to be a photographer.

  6. Priscilla Turner

    Unfortunately DxO v.5 Pro does not recognise Pentax .dng files at all, and when presented with a .pef file made with a ‘supported’ lens does not recognise the lens. It is unfinished software.

  7. Rich

    I’ve been using DXO since version 1. I do a lot of Real Estate photography with the Canon 10 – 22mm wide angle lens. The keystoning controls are extremely useful for both exterior and interior shots. Also I couldn’t do without its sophisticated lighting control. It makes it possible to uses fewer flashes. DXO evens out the light and dark areas of the room remarkably well. (Your cathedral above is a good example.)

    I have not upgraded to version 5.1 yet because I have found that they rush the new versions to market and there are lots of problems and glitches with them when they are new. Eventually they fix them, so I will wait for 5.2 or 5.3. The Help they offer is friendly and they are pretty fast to respond, but they are not knowledgeable and often give out wrong or incomplete information–or simply don’t know the answer. Documentation is also very poor. It’s frustrating to deal with them, but I am a committed, loyal user and the program improves my photos tremendously.

    PS The price for the standard version which is what most people would use, is $169, not $300. You do have to have the right camera/lens combination–mostly Canons and Nikons. At the moment they are very slow in adding non-Canon lenses to the Canon 40D lens lineup–like the Sigma 18 – 200 that I own. That’s another problem. What if they never add the lens? You’re at their mercy as to whether the lenses you own will be supported in the future, or not.

  8. Priscilla Turner

    There is some improvement in v. 5.04. my ‘supported’ DA* Pentax lenses are now recognised.

  9. Laszlo Kollar

    I have used DXO 4 and DXO 5.0.1 on the strongest computer I have (a Dell Precision 670, 2 GB RAM) and I got dissappointed with DXO 5 regarding its performance. You need a dual/quad core CPU for this SW, a 3.6 GHz Xeon with 800 MHz FSB is not enough.

    I also had stability problems with it: it crashed patching, then would not accept its own update, claiming that I should close DXO first… (and their support response was a link to the frequently asked questions, suggesting that I have a look there.)

    In short, the DXO team should have spent more time on bugfixing a perf. tuning this thing.

  10. Priscilla Turner

    Yes, I agree with the last poster: even v. 5.04 is beta software, but without the usual interaction with the testers. Among other defects it is glacially slow.

    I have the fastest quad-core CPU made plus 3GB RAM on a stable WinXPProSP2 OS.

  11. JChristian

    I’ve been using Capture One 4 for a little while and I’m really enjoying it.
    I find it’s well-organized, easy to use, and gives a good result. I do like the
    colors I get through my OEM processor (Pentax PhotoLab, which is SilkyPix)
    better than C1, but now that I’m used to the basics of the program I’m going
    to try and set a camera profile for my Pentax K100d into C1 and see if
    that narrows any discrepancy. I’m glad I have C-One 4.

  12. Blaise

    Excellent review! As a pro photographer I am always looking at ways to accelerate my workflow and produce the best looking pictures with low involvement.

    I currently use DXO 4.51 and ACDSee (for photo management) and of course Photoshop.

    I am consitently impressed by DXO – I now only use Photoshop for special filter effects.

    I am very interested in Lightroom and you article was a real eye opener.

    Thanks!

  13. Priscilla Turner

    DxO 5.1 just released is much better in most ways, and does recognise Pentax .dng files.

  14. donut

    I’ve had lots of crashing issues when trying 5 beta, but been fairly stable now that 5.2.1 is out. as for processing speed, it does a photo in something like 15 seconds on a Core2Quad Q9300 on Vista with 4GB of RAM, so I can’t complain.

    I’m not a big fan of the workflow though… still think there’s a lot of room for improvement there.

  15. Priscilla Turner

    Yes, 5.2.0.7009 produces marvellous IQ.

  16. Roger W

    Hi, isn’t life strange? My RAW convertor of choice 2 years ago was Capture One but got sidetracked last year by the added functionality of Lightroom and as of today, I am being sidetracked again in experimenting with DxO. So it’s interesting to hear others views of these and, like Armand, think each has got strengths. Like others views I have read elsewhere I’m tempted to use DxO as part of my Lightroom workflow. So would be interested in others views.

    Good review, thanks.

  17. De Lira

    A few updates from a Mac user.
    I’m using Capture One for about 2 years now. First 3.7 LE, now the version 4 (Windows and Mac)
    I was always happy with the results of this software, plus it’s incomparable stability and speed.
    I’ve decided to give a shot on DxO 5.2 demo on my MacBook Pro Core 2 2,5GHz 4GB RAM.
    DxO is just slow… Very slow…
    And on every 5 pics I work on, it will hang and I need to kill the process.
    On the image quality produced, removing the extras from DxO (all geometry and lens conversion), there was nothing I could not reproduce with Capture One. But I will not give up and try some more, as well give a shot to Lightroom. But since LR does not include lens fix, why should I give up my Capture One I’m so happy about!
    But a “tip”. For the entire lens correction missing on LR/CapOne. I’m using a very cheap tool, PTLens. Pity only works on JPEG, so you need to convert before, and use this tool after to do your horizon, cropping, perspective, cromatic aberration, vignetting etc.
    I think it’s worth a try!

  18. Ray

    PT lens DOES work on Tiff files.